{"id":10528,"date":"2025-11-13T17:55:28","date_gmt":"2025-11-13T16:55:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.naranjo-sat.com\/interview-mit-mareike\/"},"modified":"2025-11-27T10:38:54","modified_gmt":"2025-11-27T09:38:54","slug":"interview-with-mareike","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.naranjo-sat.com\/en\/interview-with-mareike\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cPlay with Your Shadows\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;_initial&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#f9f9f9&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;58px||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_tablet=&#8221;9px||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_phone=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;3_4,1_4&#8243; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_tablet=&#8221;||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_phone=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;3_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_post_title author=&#8221;off&#8221; categories=&#8221;off&#8221; comments=&#8221;off&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; title_font=&#8221;|||||on|||&#8221; title_font_size=&#8221;47px&#8221; title_line_height=&#8221;1.1em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;50px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_post_title][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.naranjo-sat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/mareike-sat-program-2.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;mareike-sat-program&#8221; disabled_on=&#8221;off|off|off&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;72%&#8221; width_tablet=&#8221;auto&#8221; width_phone=&#8221;auto&#8221; width_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;15px||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;3_4,1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; width_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; width_phone=&#8221;100%&#8221; width_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; min_height_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; min_height_phone=&#8221;&#8221; min_height_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;0px|auto||auto|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;0px|auto||auto|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;0px|auto||auto|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px|1px|75px|1px|false|true&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;3_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;_initial&#8221; text_font=&#8221;Roboto||||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;17px&#8221; quote_font=&#8221;Fira Sans|500|on||||||&#8221; quote_text_color=&#8221;#C8B493&#8243; quote_font_size=&#8221;20px&#8221; quote_line_height=&#8221;1.3em&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;Merriweather|700|||||||&#8221; header_2_text_color=&#8221;#393D41&#8243; header_2_font_size=&#8221;23px&#8221; header_3_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;0px||7px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px|40px|15px|0px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding_phone=&#8221;0px|0px|15px|0px|false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>Mareike S., 38, from Kassel is a freelance dancer and dance teacher. She shares with us her experiences around the SAT programme. An interview about the SAT Enneagram deep-dive course, personal transformation, and the power of financial support.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;3_4,1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; width_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; width_phone=&#8221;100%&#8221; width_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; min_height_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; min_height_phone=&#8221;&#8221; min_height_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;0px|auto||auto|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;0px|auto||auto|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;0px|auto||auto|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px|26px|125px|26px|false|true&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;3_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;_initial&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;17px&#8221; quote_font=&#8221;Fira Sans|500|on||||||&#8221; quote_text_color=&#8221;#C8B493&#8243; quote_font_size=&#8221;20px&#8221; quote_line_height=&#8221;1.3em&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;Merriweather|700|||||||&#8221; header_2_text_color=&#8221;#393D41&#8243; header_2_font_size=&#8221;23px&#8221; header_3_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;0px||7px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px|40px|15px|0px|false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>What interested you so much that you decided to go for it?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Through a good friend of mine. She had done the courses herself, and hearing about her experience sparked my curiosity.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>What interested you so much that you thought: \u201cI definitely want to do this\u201d?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0It was the Enneagram itself. I knew nothing about it \u2014 and that was exactly what sparked my curiosity. I wanted to learn more about the differences in people: how we react, how we meet one another. And of course, I wanted to understand myself better.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>Was there a particular aspect that fascinated you?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes \u2014 the combination of theatre, bodywork, and meditation. That connection appealed to me immediately. Knowing that the whole process was guided by therapists also gave me a strong sense of trust. I felt that I would be in good hands.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>As a freelance artist, financing such courses is not always easy. How did you do it?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I asked ZIST whether I might be eligible for a reduction. That\u2019s how I found out that both the SAT programme and the ZIST Support Association offer financial assistance. A new grant had just been launched, covering about 25% of the course costs. The Support Association invited me to attend a personal interview, where I also had to explain my financial situation. After that, everything moved quite quickly: a committee made a decision, and I was approved.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>Did that assessment feel uncomfortable to you?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Surprisingly not. It felt very natural and consistent. Of course, it was a bit challenging to talk openly about such personal questions on the phone with someone I didn\u2019t know yet. But looking back, it all made sense. The interview was honest, respectful \u2014 and somehow, it even felt good.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>What does this kind of support mean for people with lower income?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0The course is costly \u2014 understandably so, given how much it offers. For me, this SAT work isn\u2019t just personally meaningful; it\u2019s part of my professional and human development. It ripples outward. That\u2019s why people with limited financial means should have access to it too. Without the funding, participation wouldn\u2019t have been possible for me.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>Which moments from SAT 1 do you remember most vividly?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Definitely the mindfulness and presence of the team. That alertness, that quality of attention and deep competence \u2014 it impressed me profoundly. The individual work was just as meaningful as the group processes. Even everyday things like shared meals changed: a space emerged in which we could truly let ourselves and others simply be. I found more peace with myself. The theatre work, in particular, was deeply intense \u2014 it still resonates today. The way Cherif, Katrin, and Oscar each led the days with their own presence was truly moving.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>Were there moments when you reached your limits or wanted to leave?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, definitely. Working with certain people wasn\u2019t always easy. There were impulses to run away \u2014 but that\u2019s exactly what I came for: to face my own patterns.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>What did SAT 1 change in you \u2014 inwardly, and in your everyday life?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Straight after the SAT, I had a week of teaching with 20 students. I stood in front of them every day \u2014 calmer than ever before. I felt present and clear. I used to carry a constant sense of dissatisfaction. After the SAT, it was simply\u2026 gone. I didn\u2019t lose my voice once \u2014 I no longer had to \u201cforce things out.\u201d I stopped having that feeling that I had to be somewhere other than where I was.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>If you had to sum up your experience in a few words, what would you say?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0\u201cPlay with your shadows.\u201d That\u2019s the image that stays with me. Play \u2014 that\u2019s what feels so alive. And the shadows \u2014 our inner patterns, our conditioning \u2014 aren\u2019t just dark. You can invite them in, play with them, dance with them. The theatre work made that clear to me. Engage with your shadows. Bring them into play.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>You\u2019ve since also taken part in SAT 2, again with support from the association. What made you want to continue after SAT 1?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The theme of family called to me strongly. I wanted to understand my parents and our relationship better \u2014 and also their story, which I knew little about.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>What touched you the most?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It was a very personal moment: encountering my parents as children. It felt as if I could perceive their essence \u2014 beyond roles or expectations. Through SAT 2 and the deep curiosity the work awakened in me, I now feel much more connected to my parents.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>How did you experience the work with the family of origin in general?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>There were times when I thought, \u201cWhat am I doing here?\u201d Then the opposite came \u2014 the feeling that this was exactly what needed to happen. The exercise where we spoke to our siblings moved me deeply. It touched so much inside me. Things I had never said finally found a place. From the fourth day onward, I cried a lot \u2014 and I went home feeling much lighter than when I arrived. So much happened, even unconsciously. It was also wonderful to see the group again \u2014 we now meet regularly online to meditate together.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>How did you experience the progression from SAT 1 to SAT 2?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>SAT 1 asks: Who am I in the world? How do I see myself, and how do others see me?<br \/>SAT 2 goes deeper: Where do I come from? Who shaped me? How am I in relationship to others?<br \/>That structure made perfect sense to me. The many pair and small-group interactions were challenging, but precisely because of that, deeply transformative.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>And the work with the Enneagram \u2014 what was important for you there?<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I understood that the Enneagram isn\u2019t about quickly finding your type, but about exploring. 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